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BOULDER, Colo. -- City leaders are expected to decide next week whether to draft and vote on a resolution calling for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

For the past few weeks, activists have been showing up at Boulder City Council meetings, carrying signs, handing out "impeach" pins and asking City Council members to take up such a resolution. Similar measures have passed in cities across the country, including Detroit and Telluride, Colo.

Liz Robinson, one of the organizers of the effort, said people hoping to see impeachment proceedings have given congressional Democrats - who won a majority in the fall of 2006 - plenty of time to act.

But since they haven't, she said, locally elected officials should take up the slack.

"Whether or not it's the city's business directly, like potholes, I feel this affects all of us," she said. "We're the ones who are paying the taxes to support this administration's depredations, especially the war."

Impeachment proceedings would be worth doing even if they only put the last few months of Bush's eight years in office at risk, Robinson said.

"We need to send a message that this all matters to us, whether it's last-minute or not," she said.

The group appears to have some support among the City Council, although it's not clear if it has the five votes it would take to get a resolution drafted and subsequently debated.

City Councilman Macon Cowles wrote in a memo to his colleagues that he'll likely make a motion at the Feb. 19 meeting asking that a resolution be drafted.

"I believe that these citizens deserve a hearing," Cowles wrote to the council.

It wouldn't be the first time the City Council has weighed in on matters far outside the city's physical boundaries. In 2006, the council approved a resolution calling for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and in 2003, the council passed a resolution opposing the invasion.

Deputy Mayor Crystal Gray, who helped draft the 2006 resolution, said Boulder has a tradition of debating big-picture issues.

"I'm a believer that the council should be responsive at the level of local government to issues that the residents raise, just like the Iraq war resolution," she said.

But City Councilman Ken Wilson said he's not on board. During a recent retreat, the City Council agreed to priorities ranging from fixing structural problems in the budget to doing better land-use planning.

That doesn't leave much time for issues over which the city doesn't have direct jurisdiction, he said.

"We did not identify national issues as a priority for work by council and staff. We are already seeing scheduling problems trying to address our priorities and the immediate needs of the city," he said. "Hours spent discussing national issues will reduce the amount of time we can spend on city issues."


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Jewel W. wrote on Feb 15, 2008 11:06 PM:

" Does this group really understand what the war is about? Is it possible they are missing some information? "

Gary F. wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:59 AM:

" STUPID IS WHAT IT IS,THEY WILL NEED TO CUT THE CITY'S E-MARKS LIKE OUT WEST. THEN WE SEE WHAT KIND OF BACK BONE THEY HAVE,ALSO WE HAVE TO THINK THAT MY BE THERE YELLOW AND OF AFRAID OF RADICAL ISLAM.AND THE THINK THEY CAN JUST STICK THEY HEAD IN THE SAND,AND IT ALL GOES'S AWAY.RIGHT AND I HAVE A PARK IN THE GREAT CITY OF NEW YORK TO SEE U. "

marcy k. wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:01 PM:

" I couldn't agree more with a move to empeach this both Bush and Cheney.
There are two articles in particular that WE the PEOPLE need to read and pay close attention to on You tube.
"the Dangers of the North American Union", a decision made behind our backs and with out Congresses knowledge by Bush and then "Hallibutron Moves to Dubai". We need to wake up before it is too late and start sharing information on what our top elected officials are doing to this Nation. Let's live up to our motto and stand together! This war is making Dick Cheney a rich man at the tax payer's expense. Why do we put up with It people? "

tom a. wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:31 PM:

" Without a doubt this administration has comimitted many impeacable offences. My question is why no one seems to feel the outrage that I do.If president Clinton could be impeaced for such a minor offence, how is it possable for these men who have shown time after time their total disregard for the law of the land, the constitution,and especially the welfareand rights of the American people "

blakus wrote on Feb 16, 2008 4:56 PM:

" hmmm, the war in Iraq has nothing to do with what happened in New York on 9-11. The war in Afghanistan on the other hand does. Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, Osama did and yet he is still running around supposedly plotting attacks in the Middle East and Pakistan. I believe that the People of Boulder have a point. It is interesting that Haliburton did receive the largest contract in Iraq... hmmmmmm, a little fishy dick cheney. Impeach both bush and cheney. They have lied and ran the national debt through the floor. So much for the 'conservative' republican party, what a joke! "

vlhamilton wrote on Feb 17, 2008 10:19 AM:

" I love this idea. Our city of Santa Barbara, CA, became the 300th "City for Peace" by a unanimous vote by our City Council this past year. After two years of petitioning for this action, the peace and justice activists of our community finally succeeded in getting their local government to do what the federal government won't! Why not put this same LOCAL effort into the impeachment issue? Our Democracy can only survive if the people it serves are willing to fight for it. Who else will save our democracy if not us? "We simply cannot sit by paralyzed or impassive, while our freedoms are dismantled piece by piece." (Elizabeth Holtzman in THE IMPEACHMENT OF GEORGE W. BUSH) "

E. Art Barriere wrote on Feb 17, 2008 12:33 PM:

" Best for all would be for Boulder and San Francisco to secede from the USA. and form their own pinko government geared for fruits and nuts. "

Kim G. wrote on Feb 17, 2008 2:11 PM:

" An English newspaper, The Guardian, in the staunchest of our allies, England, had a headline last year, "Once the most Loved Country in the World, the US is now its most Hated". It is time that we woke up to the reality of what Bush -Cheney have done and are doing to the future livelihoods and successes of our children in an increasingly hostile world. "

dennis wrote on Feb 17, 2008 4:49 PM:

" this prez and his sidekick chumpy have commited, and will continue to commit more henious crimes and no one's going to stop them. not you not politicians. these henchmens get whatever they want on a golden platter courtesy of the republicans and democrats party...... "

frownder wrote on Feb 17, 2008 9:43 PM:

" Saddam paid for attacking the US on 9/11!!! Now we must give the telecoms amnesty to move on to step two to weed out the enablers in the US!!!??? "

Newman wrote on Feb 17, 2008 9:47 PM:

" Are ANY of the above posters from Wyoming? No ? I didn't think so . . .

Why don't you idiots blog on your OWN newspaper's websites and leave ours alone??

What? You say they've BLOCKED you? Ha Ha Ha!

Clowns . . . "

Rev. Dee wrote on Feb 18, 2008 10:08 AM:

" Well any body that thinks that the War was about Bin Laden has to bury their head preety far in the sand (or somewhere).

If we had focused on Bin laden in the first place we could have saved tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. As it is we have gained no ground and lost much, including the respect of the world.

I would say we lost our moral compass as well, but that was lost long ago. we've been selling out to the special interests for so long. . . . Maybe an "unexperianced canidate" won't play the game.

It's a little late to waste time and money on an impeachment process. Let's actually learn from history for a change (novel idea that it seems to be) and start reaching for and demanding a different future. "

Macaad wrote on Feb 18, 2008 11:42 AM:

" God I hate stupid people! Here you go, yet another lesson in political science...Congress, and only congress, can impeach a president, vice prsident, federal judges, and other civil officials of the US gov't if it belives these individuals are guilty of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. The House decides the charges, votes, and has to have a majority vote. Then then Senate must decide with a 2/3 majority vote- thats why Clinton didn't get impeached the House charged him but the Senate didn't convict him. Only the House and Senate can bring on the impeachment process. Not a city, a township or even a state. "

WyomingGal wrote on Feb 18, 2008 11:11 PM:

" Yes, Macaad, while true it takes both houses of the federal government to start the impeachment process, to whom do you think these politicians have to answer to if they fail to follow their own states' wishes. The very same voters in those states! The politicos should actually listen to their constituents and to what they want, after all, they elected them to those positions of power. It is their duty to do so. If they aren't doing that, then they are not doing the job we elected them to do, which is to represent the PEOPLE of this nation! "

B----Rock wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:10 AM:

" Funny thing about this whole "movement" it is apparently okay for me to pay tax dollars for Clinton to have his "fun-filled private life" (in an OFFICIAL government office i might add) but its not okay for this country to stand up for itself when attacked? I would also like to add.....Maybe we wouldn't be in this situation had Clinton used his "fun time" towards intelligence and protecting this country. I would also like someone to prove to me how throwing up the "peace" sign to everyone who means us harm will protect this country? If you get beat up for lunch money at school does the bullying stop when I throw up the peace sign???? No!!!!! You have to kick some butt. "

Rev. Dee wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:38 AM:

" B- Rock
While I don't approve of Clinton's actions, can you seriously compare a personal Moral laspe that effects a few people personally with multiple moral lapses that have gotten thousands of people killed, left even more Children (on both sides) the orphaned, women and men widows. . . .

Passsed laws that erroded your privacy rights. . .

Or taken food and medicine right out of the mouths of our own hard working middle and lower class Americans.
It is such a long list. . . .

Get real! There is no comparrison!

Peace my brother.
"

Mad Max wrote on Feb 19, 2008 1:50 PM:

" This is just another side show that drives us off course. All useless posturing by an angry and unhappy fringe few designed only to stir-up more emotional responses and no real thinking about how to solve our issues of the day. The President was legally elected and reelected. Congress overwhelmingly approved the US going to war, and has approved funding for the war on terror for seven consecutive years. Chew on those facts non-thinkers. "

flounder wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:25 PM:

" Macaad, sorry, but before you start lecturing people on how stupid they are you should learn the facts. A STATE LEGISLATURE can start the impeachment process. This website describes how this would work:
http://www.impeachbush.tv/impeach/statebasis.html
Basically a state legislature would draw up the charges and forward them to the US House, who would be obligated to investigate (i.e. hold impeachment hearings). "

Hyman wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:32 PM:

" A symbolic gesture that serves no one and wastes the tax payers dollars in the process. Impeach or recall the city counsel and all other elected officials that support them. "

Moisha wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:35 PM:

" vlhamilton, hey fruit ball, just because you and your noisey little group can't get what they want at the polls doesn't mean you can hijack the democratic process via the media and the celebrity elite that finance you nuts. Move to France! "

Gerry wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:50 PM:

" Heres's a real wake up call for you; we don't all feel (you don't think) like you socialists do no matter how loud you yell about it. Get a clue! Then sit down and shut up! "

Rev. Dee wrote on Feb 20, 2008 6:15 AM:

" yo Gerry,

Huh? what theheck are you talking about. . .at least try to make rational logical sense. . . "

profit wrote on Feb 20, 2008 7:53 AM:

" Our government is completely out of touch with we the people. Bush & Company committed crimes against humanity and should be held accountable. They have stolen the presidency twice and have knowingly misled people to back a war based on lies. Since nothing will happen at the federal level, it is appropriate for people to take action at the grass roots level. The majority of the people do not back this president nor his war nor his attack on our freedoms here at home. I marvel that the press who is part of the the president's fantasy camp would even print this story. "

Real world wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:01 AM:

" Well said Max, If Bush and Cheney have committed any crimes, does anyone think that the Democrats wouldn't have their heads on a platter? And just because a few liberal city counsels have stuck their noses where they don't belong doesn't mean Bush and Cheney should be impeached. Soon enough the Democrats will be in controll again and will once again tie the hands of our intelligency agency so we can do 9-11 again. Hopefully it happens before they gut the military again to supports some more costly government programs "

Jeanie wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:37 PM:

" profit, It is you and the rest of the socialists self-proclaimed high brows (in reality just high) that are completely out of touch with domestic and international issues. I understand that you wanted a communist in the oval office and that you've long suffered under a progressive conservative, LIVE WITH IT. May be you'll get your turn if Osama Obama is elected or Mao's love child Hillary the bitter, brittle and burnt. "

flounder wrote on Feb 20, 2008 6:01 PM:

" Harmon, I myself base my moral tone on the noble actions of John McCain, who divorced his wife and married a younger, richer one a month later. I also throw in a dash of Newt Gingrich, who was cheating on his wife and served her divorce papers when she was in the hospital undergoing cancer treatment. I also feel inspired by Rudy Giuliani, who cheated on two wives, and spent public money (and then tried to hide the fact) going to see his mistress. P.S. Are you old enough to go to Iraq? "

profit wrote on Feb 20, 2008 6:15 PM:

" I want an honest human being in the oval office. I cannot fathom how speaking out about the loss of freedom while this regime has been in office gets turned into accusations of being a communist or a socialist. I refuse to be part of the sheep led to slaughter by the neocon propaganda machine which the likes of "Jeane" represent. Harmon, I'd much rather have a cheating husband in office than a puppet. "

Harmon wrote on Feb 21, 2008 8:44 AM:

" flounder, Your assumptions about Sen. McCain are not only off topic (can you focus?) but are also unethical. WRT your question about my age and service, I have completed two tours in Anbar (Ramadi and Fallujah) with 2nd MarDiv, what about your national service to something beyond self? My beliefs are in action now.

Profit, Who is it that you believe to be an honest human being that is in this presidential race offered by the left? Obama a self confessed drug user, armed only with rhetoric (no substance) that also plagiarizes others? Hillary the queen of White Water and the Vince Foster scandal? Come now, what have either of these two new comers to elected office have over Sen. McCain's stellar and honorable record of public service?
"

Who will be the first? wrote on Feb 21, 2008 10:03 AM:

" The statistics are now in; last month a mere 349,000 Americans were unemployed. That number is down 8,000 from the previous month. Simple math tells me that if we get ride of the 10-20 million illegal aliens, then we could handily employ all 349,000 that are unemployed and issue guest worker visas to fill the rest of the labor requirement. In a nation of around 300 million, ejecting 10-20 million uninvited, unwanted and unneeded invaders in order to ensure full employment of US citizens seems to be a worthy and straight forward proposition to me. Now, which presidential hopeful will assemble a plan to get this done and soon?
"

WyomingGal wrote on Feb 21, 2008 12:06 PM:

" Harmon, I just watched a documentary filmed by a doctor in Iraq titled: Baghdad Hospital/Red Zone, it was a real eye-opener. A lot of the wounded, and the families of them (both Shia and Sunni), said that it gotten a lot worse since we got there, especially for the women, who, since the crumbling of Saddam's regime have lost rights due to the religious zealotry that has taken hold of that nation. Now they are in full civil war and guess who pays the price? The regular citizens of Iraq, not the military (theirs, not ours). What I saw in that documentary about drove me to tears. We haven't stopped terrorism, but rather have jacked it up to new heights. The children there (those that will survive this "War on Terror", and now the civil war, that is) have watched their families and friends blown away by not only our troops, but their own country's military and militants as well. Do you honestly think that these children won't become the new 'crop' of terrorists to come at us? I guess that's what happens when we "Whip a little democracy on 'em!" huh. As far as what you stated about flounder being unethical in regards to comments made of Sen. McCain, please do point out to me where there is ANY ethics in politics today, from either side of the aisle, and I'll buy you a great big steak dinner. "

profit wrote on Feb 21, 2008 12:54 PM:

" harmon, we currently have an ex cocaine addict in the oval office who barely made it thru college and didn't show up for duty in the Air Force guard. All of Bush's business venture went belly up even tho he was heavily subsidized by the Saudi's. That's quite a record and you should be proud. "

Baller wrote on Feb 21, 2008 1:30 PM:

" Harmon, what is unethical about facts? Is it unethical to point out that Iraq and its former dictator was supported by the U.S. when we knew he was gassing and torturing his own people in the 80's? It is unethical to point out the CIA supported Osama in the 80's during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Both Clinton and Bush had a chance at Bin Laden, but incompetence prevailed. Instead of making baseless claims and involving yourself in a hypocritical corporate war, you should be supporting truth and helping impressionable youth by volunteering your time to humanity. But I do understand you have to be obedient to your commander in-chief. "

flounder wrote on Feb 21, 2008 5:28 PM:

" Hey Harmon, you are the one who brought up who was driving the moral tone, not me. So don't say I'm off topic because I brought up the fact that your Saint Maverick Straight-talk is full of you know what in his pants. And why exactly would it be unethical for me to point out the truth about the man?
Thanks for your service. I have always been against this stupid and costly war. I've got to say your service is more than most of the yellow elephants who think the idea of sacrifice in the name of Saint Mavericks 100 year war was to go shopping for a bunch of stuff from China. "

David wrote on Feb 21, 2008 8:25 PM:

" My wife and I grew up in Boulder before it became The People's Republic of Boulder and stuff like this is just embarrassing. The city council needs to address issues that matter such as traffic problems ( a favorite bumper sticker in Boulder - Imagine using your turn signals), affordable housing (the shack I bought in 1974 for 14,500 recently sold for 250K with no discernible improvements) and supporting the library. They don't need to be sticking their noses where they don't belong. "

macaad wrote on Feb 22, 2008 5:29 PM:

" Flounder- So your telling me to get my facts from a website?? Especially one titled impeachbush?! That's good. "

B----Rock wrote on Feb 22, 2008 9:49 PM:

" Hey Profit.......
If President Bush barely got through college and is such a "retard" as it seems you are implying......explain to me why he scored a 1206 on his SATs and graduated from Yale and then from Harvard busines school where he recieved a 3.6 GPA..... You probably had a 1.6 GPA in High school and work at the local Dennys. Or maybe you too were accepted to Harvard or Yale and I'm just mis-------informed? "

profit wrote on Feb 22, 2008 10:07 PM:

" B-rock, because he didn't excel nor achieve those GPA's. He was an excellent partier, tho.. Nice try. I on the other hand graduated with honors from a big 10 university and am real smart. "

factoid wrote on Feb 23, 2008 4:22 PM:

" I had a heck of a time finding Bush's GPA at Yale. It was in fact 2.0. He also attended Andover. He must have gotten into Harvard Business School because of his dad. Also, his SAT scores were Verbal- 566 and math-640. I don't think that makes him a brilliant mind. He was arrested in Harris County Texas in 1972 for cocaine possession. His college buddies say he majored in partying and kept that up until he was 40. I hope this clears up any confusion B Rock's propaganda may have caused the good people of Wyoming. "

flounder wrote on Feb 23, 2008 5:13 PM:

" macaad, I picked that website because it has the easiest explanation for the way a state legislature can submit articles of impeachment. That website linked to the more legalistic explanation found in the Jefferson Manual, which is the official rules book under which the House of Representatives operates. You really shouldn't be calling other people stupid. "

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